Somali woman stoned for adultery - Page 2

Highlander999 · 19th November 2009, 06:13 PM

Reckon we should send Katie Price out to Somalia

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Originally Posted by send2yaari

dear Highlander,one thing I must tell you if you don't know about the situation and complexity of laws you must not comment on it harshly,think about the situation research about the laws and then comment on any matter.

The laws are stupid and it isn't complex it is sheer savagery. Any half educated/civilised person can see this

send2yaari · 19th November 2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hmarka

Being stoned to death is a fate nobody deserves. How you can even justify it is testament to what a barbaric and savage culture you are from.

I literally feel like puking, could not believe that someone who is obviously mildly educated would find the practice of stoning acceptable.

I know you are very educated,then go to your justice and law committees,they will tell you which is best and which is not,and why?
I am fine with my savage culture but sadly here in Pakistan we are standing alone on the bridge of European culture and Islamic culture,even same thing is happening in most of the Islamic countries.I have my own point of view so please leave my point and carry on with yours.

ZoraxDoom · 19th November 2009, 06:19 PM

I think his point is not about whether the laws are savage or not, but whether it is the right thing to do. The woman was raised in that society, knew what the punishments were, and broke the rules. To say she didn't deserve it, in a sense, is wrong. 'Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time'

Also, being around a lot of Muslim friends and such, Muslim laws are infact, very complicated, with a lot of deep-routed logic involved in it. Especially the more extremist ones, such as this society.

However, whether such a society is acceptable, or whether these laws are inhumane and barbaric is a different topic all-together.

I personally think death as a punishment for anything apart from serial killing is horrible and wrong.

King Cricket · 19th November 2009, 06:19 PM

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dear Highlander,one thing I must tell you if you don't know about the situation and complexity of laws you must not comment on it harshly,think about the situation research about the laws and then comment on any matter.

Shariyah laws are stupid, rubbish, dumb, biased, idiotic, promote human rights abuse, promote racial discrimination, discrimination against women....and I can go on and on!

send2yaari · 19th November 2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Cricket

Shariyah laws are stupid, rubbish, dumb, biased, idiotic, promote human rights abuse, promote racial discrimination, discrimination against women....and I can go on and on!

This is against the rules of this forum,you have no right to say bad about any religion.

hMarka · 19th November 2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

To say she didn't deserve it, in a sense, is wrong. 'Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time'

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I disagree, just because she was in Somalia does not mean she necessarily has to agree with the misguided moral code they have there. Adultery is not even that big an issue, it happens and people move on. I think I will go to church this weekend (have not gone in years) and thank God that I do not have to live amongst people who are less civilized than baboons.

ZoraxDoom · 19th November 2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by King Cricket

Shariyah laws are stupid, rubbish, dumb, biased, idiotic, promote human rights abuse, promote racial discrimination, discrimination against women....and I can go on and on!

It's not our position to judge someone elses religion. There are bad things to be said for every culture and religion on Earth. Doesn't stop them from existing.

dutchad · 19th November 2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

It's not our position to judge someone elses religion. There are bad things to be said for every culture and religion on Earth. Doesn't stop them from existing.

Well I repeat my point that I hope that when it is their sister or someone they dearly love or even themselves that they too will feel satisfied that justice is being done as the stones are thrown.

send2yaari · 19th November 2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

I think his point is not about whether the laws are savage or not, but whether it is the right thing to do. The woman was raised in that society, knew what the punishments were, and broke the rules. To say she didn't deserve it, in a sense, is wrong. 'Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time'

Also, being around a lot of Muslim friends and such, Muslim laws are infact, very complicated, with a lot of deep-routed logic involved in it. Especially the more extremist ones, such as this society.

However, whether such a society is acceptable, or whether these laws are inhumane and barbaric is a different topic all-together.

I personally think death as a punishment for anything apart from serial killing is horrible and wrong.

I really agree with you except your last line and happy you have given your idea and not uselessly tried to criticized.

Amiya · 19th November 2009, 06:30 PM

Tbh i thinks it's a nuisance to award death to her. I respect every religion but i will really condemn this. It's something which needs to be re-looked.

send2yaari · 19th November 2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dutchad

Well I repeat my point that I hope that when it is their sister or someone they dearly love or even themselves that they too will feel satisfied that justice is being done as the stones are thrown.

If such situation will occur and they have even double punishment by actual laws

I don't know whats going on in somalia whether they are even Muslims or not but I am only talking about actual laws.

hMarka · 19th November 2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

It's not our position to judge someone elses religion. There are bad things to be said for every culture and religion on Earth. Doesn't stop them from existing.

It is every humans duty to criticize when human rights and life are being so horrible violated.

And yes there are bad things to say about all cultures, except that Sharia Islam takes the cake. Sharia Islam is a disease and it needs to be eradicated from this earth.

No other mainstream culture on earth puts people to death in such horrific manners or honor kill daughters, or preach to kill non-believers ....... and the list goes on.

ZoraxDoom · 19th November 2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hmarka

I disagree, just because she was in Somalia does not mean she necessarily has to agree with the misguided moral code they have there. Adultery is not even that big an issue, it happens and people move on. I think I will go to church this weekend (have not gone in years) and thank God that I do not have to live amongst people who are less civilized than baboons.

That line is true, very true. It's her misfortune to be born there, and it is a very tragic ending.

However, why break a rule you know will get you killed? UAE, for example, isn't a fair country. One unspoken rule here is that the locals are always right. You never argue with an Arab, you never blame them for a car crash, you let them have their way. Arguing or causing a commotion will only lead to you suffering.

It isn't fair in any sense of the word. They can run over you and you'll take the blame. But we all know that., and we move on.

Ofcourse, this woman didn't have the opportunities to leave the country or to pursue another life, and she was forced into this. And that is a great tragedy. But she must have known adultery would get her stoned to death. She must have realised the dangers of breaking the rules in that society.

Yet she went and did it anyways.

So one can guess that she did it because she had had enough, or because she was careless, had a moment of weakness. Whatever it was, she knew the punishment, and went and did it.

Is it nice, nope. Is it tragic, yes. But the punishment, in this case, was deserved, as she broke the rules of that society.

Again, whether these rules are any good, whether a society like this should be tolerated, whether something should be done, etc. is a different topic...

hMarka · 19th November 2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by send2yaari

I don't know whats going on in somalia whether they are even Muslims or not .

The convenient their not "Muslims" excuse. Well buddy no one buys that garbage.

send2yaari · 19th November 2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hmarka

It is every humans duty to criticize when human rights and life are being so horrible violated.

And yes there are bad things to say about all cultures, except that Sharia Islam takes the cake. Sharia Islam is a disease and it needs to be eradicated from this earth.

No other mainstream culture on earth puts people to death in such horrific manners or honor kill daughters, or preach to kill non-believers ....... and the list goes on.

You are again taking this thread on the wrong direction.