WC2007: Super 8

Ponting_14 · 25th March 2007, 07:21 AM

Let's talk about it here people.

Teams that are in:

Australia
South Africa
Sri Lanka
Bangladesh
New Zealand
England
West Indies
Ireland

I have to ask one thing tho. Why is Australia playing the West Indies in the first game of super 8 when we both finished first in our groups? Should we not be playing Ireland first?

Schedule:

March 27, Super 8s - West Indies vs Australia
Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, St Peter's, Antigua

March 28, Super 8s - South Africa vs Sri Lanka
Providence Stadium, Guyana

March 29, Super 8s - West Indies vs New Zealand
Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, St Peter's, Antigua

March 30, Super 8s - Ireland vs England
Providence Stadium, Guyana

March 31, Super 8s - Australia vs Bangladesh
Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, St Peter's, Antigua

April 1, Super 8s - West Indies vs Sri Lanka
Providence Stadium, Guyana

April 2, Super 8s - Bangladesh vs New Zealand
Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, St Peter's, Antigua

April 3, Super 8s - Ireland vs South Africa
Providence Stadium, Guyana

April 4, Super 8s - England vs Sri Lanka
Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, St Peter's, Antigua

April 7, Super 8s - Bangladesh vs South Africa
Providence Stadium, Guyana

April 8, Super 8s - Australia vs England
Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, St Peter's, Antigua

April 9, Super 8s - Ireland vs New Zealand
Providence Stadium, Guyana

April 10, Super 8s - West Indies vs South Africa
National Cricket Stadium, Grenada

April 11, Super 8s - England vs Bangladesh
Kensington Oval, Barbados

April 12, Super 8s - Sri Lanka vs New Zealand
National Cricket Stadium, Grenada

April 13, Super 8s - Australia vs Ireland
Kensington Oval, Barbados

April 14, Super 8s - South Africa vs New Zealand
National Cricket Stadium, Grenada

April 15, Super 8s - Bangladesh vs Ireland
Kensington Oval, Barbados

April 16, Super 8s - Australia vs Sri Lanka
National Cricket Stadium, Grenada

April 17, Super 8s - South Africa vs England
Kensington Oval, Barbados

April 18, Super 8s - Ireland vs Sri Lanka
National Cricket Stadium, Grenada

April 19, Super 8s - West Indies vs Bangladesh
Kensington Oval, Barbados

April 20, Super 8s - Australia vs New Zealand
National Cricket Stadium, Grenada

April 21, Super 8s - West Indies vs England
Kensington Oval, Barbados

sohum · 25th March 2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ponting_14

I have to ask one thing tho. Why is Australia playing the West Indies in the first game of super 8 when we both finished first in our groups? Should we not be playing Ireland first?

I'm not sure what the schedule is like but the A1, A2, B1, B2, etc... organizations are based on pre-tournament rankings. The only reminder of the group stage is the 2 points which are carried forward. So, in a hypothetical parallel universe where India had won all their games, they would still be B2, because Sri Lanka was seeded above them.

Griffo · 25th March 2007, 08:23 AM

how many games will either bangladesh or ireland win?

Ponting_14 · 25th March 2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffo

how many games will either bangladesh or ireland win?

Well bangladesh will get one win because they'll beat ireland and I can't see Ireland beating anyone.

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Originally Posted by sohummisra

I'm not sure what the schedule is like but the A1, A2, B1, B2, etc... organizations are based on pre-tournament rankings. The only reminder of the group stage is the 2 points which are carried forward. So, in a hypothetical parallel universe where India had won all their games, they would still be B2, because Sri Lanka was seeded above them.

I see, thanks.

ZexyZahid · 25th March 2007, 09:32 AM

I think Bangladesh will at least one. And maybe they will win again against New Zealand?

Also South Africa will be playing against Sri Lanka, which is a match to look forward too.

Griffo · 25th March 2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ZexyZahid

Also South Africa will be playing against Sri Lanka, which is a match to look forward too.

why is that?

Ponting_14 · 25th March 2007, 12:39 PM

Where can I find a good schedule for the super 8?

andrew_nixon · 25th March 2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponting_14

Where can I find a good schedule for the super 8?

Here you go: http://www.cricketeurope4.net/CRICKE...S/super8.shtml

Kev · 25th March 2007, 01:53 PM

Thanks Andrew, it seems my Wisden wall-chart is incorrect as it differs to that.

Mona brothers · 25th March 2007, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sohummisra

I'm not sure what the schedule is like but the A1, A2, B1, B2, etc... organizations are based on pre-tournament rankings. The only reminder of the group stage is the 2 points which are carried forward. So, in a hypothetical parallel universe where India had won all their games, they would still be B2, because Sri Lanka was seeded above them.

Wat is the first super eight match
as per schedule it is AUSTRALIA vs IRELAND
but all media saying that it is AUSTRALIA vs WESTINDIES
Pl reply

andrew_nixon · 25th March 2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona brothers

Wat is the first super eight match
as per schedule it is AUSTRALIA vs IRELAND
but all media saying that it is AUSTRALIA vs WESTINDIES
Pl reply

The schedule does not say it is Australia v Ireland at all, it says it is Australia v West Indies.

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Originally Posted by Kev

Thanks Andrew, it seems my Wisden wall-chart is incorrect as it differs to that.

I suspect it is accurate, but you've worked it out wrong. Let me guess that you have the first Super 8 match as Australia v Ireland? You have put Ireland as D2 because they finished second in the group?

Mona brothers · 25th March 2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew_nixon

The schedule does not say it is Australia v Ireland at all, it says it is Australia v West Indies.

I suspect it is accurate, but you've worked it out wrong. Let me guess that you have the first Super 8 match as Australia v Ireland? You have put Ireland as D2 because they finished second in the group?

Hai Andrew,
as per schedule it is A1 vs D2 that means AUSTRALIA vs IRELAND right??????

Adarsh · 25th March 2007, 02:52 PM

No. That's not how it works. The teams were put in order of their rankings. Pakistan was above, West Indies (I think), which meant that they were D1. Since Ireland beat Pakistan, and have taken their place Ireland are D1.

Where the teams finish in their group has no influence on this.

Kev · 25th March 2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona brothers

Hai Andrew,
as per schedule it is A1 vs D2 that means AUSTRALIA vs IRELAND right??????

I guess it doesn't

Although the wisden wallchart does indeed say "2nd Group D vs 1st Group A" so thats kind of misleading.

andrew_nixon · 25th March 2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev

I guess it doesn't

Although the wisden wallchart does indeed say "2nd Group D vs 1st Group A" so thats kind of misleading.

That's probably Wisden being idiots and assuming that everything would go by the form book!

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Originally Posted by Mona brothers

Hai Andrew,
as per schedule it is A1 vs D2 that means AUSTRALIA vs IRELAND right??????

Nope. West Indies are D2.

A1, B1, C1, etc all refer to the pre-tournament seedings. In Group D, Pakistan were seeded first, and West Indies second. So as Ireland qualified instead of Pakistan, they get D1, and the West Indies keep D2.