Players stats.

Sureshot · 5th April 2006, 12:42 PM

So which players do you think have a rating to low or to high?

James Kirtley
Chris Adams
Rich Montgomerie.

From my time with sussex.

Muhammad Saad · 5th April 2006, 01:41 PM

Shahid Yousuf rating should be =Good
and all domestic Pakistan Middle order batsman are termed as tailender this should be fixed

Sureshot · 5th April 2006, 04:10 PM

73 for Gayles scoring speed.

Hmmm.

sammy22 · 5th April 2006, 04:20 PM

Flintoffs scoing speed is 63 (I think?) not sure what Pietersens is but both sould be in the high 90's.

Adarsh · 5th April 2006, 04:23 PM

The scoring speed is for Tests, I think.

sammy22 · 5th April 2006, 04:29 PM

A couple of quick observations I would like somehow for scoring speeds to be incorporatd into the game. For example Andy Flintoff scores at around the same speed as most of my Lancashire side, and at most has hit 2 fours in an over. However you know what he is like, he is capable of massive hittting and this should be implemented somehow in the game.

2. Bowling statistics seem to make little if any difference to the game. Yes there are 4 attribrutes but what effect do they have? Flintoff and Anderson have very high stats, even higher for a county championship side yet they allowed Essexs number 10 and 11 (Middlebrook and Gough) to put on over 200 for the last wicket. Players with bowling skills of 50-60 are just as effective and I have even heard reports (although not had the bottle to test this myself) of batsmen with bowling ratings of 15 etc coming on and taking 7 wickets for 20 runs whilst the star bowler ends up with figures of 1/130.

Turbanation · 5th April 2006, 04:39 PM

Hopefully youth bowlers and england bowlers are better in this game than in ICC 2005.

Timewell · 5th April 2006, 05:01 PM

I would be interested in your opinions on the data actually. I am responsible for the English data, in particular, although I did have a look at the West Indies, Pakistan and India. Obviously, Glenn and Oli did most of the work, I just offered my own interpretation. In my mind, the statistics are all a matter of opinion and interpretation so you won't be able to please everybody! But that does not mean that others will not be able to provide useful contributions - quite the opposite. If there is anything that needs correcting or you feel is unrealistic with regard to the actual statistical data, I would appreciate you mentioning it.

With regards to Flintoff's strike rate, that has been adjusted now. My mistake was to have included his Test strike rate and not an average of his strike rates put together. Pietersen and Blackwell will also be looked at. However, I think that some of the problem may lie with the match engine if everyone seems to be scoring at the same rate. I'll mention it to Glenn and Oli though.

The game will benefit most if people chip in with their bit, as it were.

Sureshot · 5th April 2006, 06:00 PM

KPs Strike rate (And Afridis) are both over 100 in ODIs.

But 73 for Gayle, is too low for my liking, considering Laras is 10 higher.

Adarsh · 5th April 2006, 06:04 PM

Quote:

My mistake was to have included his Test strike rate and not an average of his strike rates put together.

The scoring rate is an average of the strike rates in Tests and ODIs?!! They are completely different forms of the game. If this is the case, then you should just implement the strike rates in ODIs, for the OD games and the Test strike rate for the Tests; or is this too hard to implement into the game?

chrishinton · 5th April 2006, 06:05 PM

i think it fine as it is. There are a couple of data problem (Although Minor) but it an outstanding job by the lads

Timewell · 5th April 2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adarsh

The scoring rate is an average of the strike rates in Tests and ODIs?!! They are completely different forms of the game. If this is the case, then you should just implement the strike rates in ODIs, for the OD games and the Test strike rate for the Tests; or is this too hard to implement into the game?

Currently, there is only one "strike rate" field on which to enter data. So if I was to put a strike rate of greater than 100, it would mean FC innings would be a slog-fest! Obviously, in the future, it might change.

puddleduck · 5th April 2006, 06:53 PM

I would definately suggest that the game could do with incorporating two different strike rates. Afterall Flintoff these days in test cricket takes time to build his innings, but still looks to score remarkably quickly in the Odi arena. This could well explain why the odi arena is currently producing scores and run rates that are far too low. As players who have a high SR in odi cricket are having it reduced to form an average with their first class SR.

sammy22 · 5th April 2006, 06:54 PM

Just put Flintoffs over 100 Timewell. A player Like Freddy deserves to be special

Also increase all his other stats whilst your at it

chrishinton · 5th April 2006, 07:03 PM

how do you change data sammy?

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5th April 2006, 12:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sureshot Staff Member Member Since: Feb 2005 Location: West Sussex National Team: England Domestic Team: Sussex CCC, Nottingham Forest.	Players stats. So which players do you think have a rating to low or to high? James Kirtley Chris Adams Rich Montgomerie. From my time with sussex. __________________ Ellipsis' are not commas!

5th April 2006, 04:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sureshot Staff Member Member Since: Feb 2005 Location: West Sussex National Team: England Domestic Team: Sussex CCC, Nottingham Forest.	73 for Gayles scoring speed. Hmmm. __________________ Ellipsis' are not commas!

5th April 2006, 06:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sureshot Staff Member Member Since: Feb 2005 Location: West Sussex National Team: England Domestic Team: Sussex CCC, Nottingham Forest.	KPs Strike rate (And Afridis) are both over 100 in ODIs. But 73 for Gayle, is too low for my liking, considering Laras is 10 higher. __________________ Ellipsis' are not commas!

5th April 2006, 01:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Muhammad Saad Banned Member Since: Nov 2005 Location: I think it is earth? National Team: Pakistan Domestic Team: Karachi	Shahid Yousuf rating should be =Good and all domestic Pakistan Middle order batsman are termed as tailender this should be fixed

5th April 2006, 04:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
sammy22 School Boy Cricketer Member Since: Mar 2006	Flintoffs scoing speed is 63 (I think?) not sure what Pietersens is but both sould be in the high 90's.

5th April 2006, 04:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Adarsh National Board President Member Since: Jun 2005 Location: West Yorkshire, UK	The scoring speed is for Tests, I think.

5th April 2006, 04:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
sammy22 School Boy Cricketer Member Since: Mar 2006	A couple of quick observations I would like somehow for scoring speeds to be incorporatd into the game. For example Andy Flintoff scores at around the same speed as most of my Lancashire side, and at most has hit 2 fours in an over. However you know what he is like, he is capable of massive hittting and this should be implemented somehow in the game. 2. Bowling statistics seem to make little if any difference to the game. Yes there are 4 attribrutes but what effect do they have? Flintoff and Anderson have very high stats, even higher for a county championship side yet they allowed Essexs number 10 and 11 (Middlebrook and Gough) to put on over 200 for the last wicket. Players with bowling skills of 50-60 are just as effective and I have even heard reports (although not had the bottle to test this myself) of batsmen with bowling ratings of 15 etc coming on and taking 7 wickets for 20 runs whilst the star bowler ends up with figures of 1/130.

5th April 2006, 04:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Turbanation County Captain AKA: Turbanator Member Since: Nov 2004 Location: SE London National Team: India Domestic Team: Surrey	Hopefully youth bowlers and england bowlers are better in this game than in ICC 2005.

5th April 2006, 05:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Timewell U19 Cricketer Member Since: May 2003	I would be interested in your opinions on the data actually. I am responsible for the English data, in particular, although I did have a look at the West Indies, Pakistan and India. Obviously, Glenn and Oli did most of the work, I just offered my own interpretation. In my mind, the statistics are all a matter of opinion and interpretation so you won't be able to please everybody! But that does not mean that others will not be able to provide useful contributions - quite the opposite. If there is anything that needs correcting or you feel is unrealistic with regard to the actual statistical data, I would appreciate you mentioning it. With regards to Flintoff's strike rate, that has been adjusted now. My mistake was to have included his Test strike rate and not an average of his strike rates put together. Pietersen and Blackwell will also be looked at. However, I think that some of the problem may lie with the match engine if everyone seems to be scoring at the same rate. I'll mention it to Glenn and Oli though. The game will benefit most if people chip in with their bit, as it were.

5th April 2006, 06:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
chrishinton School Boy Cricketer Member Since: Feb 2004	i think it fine as it is. There are a couple of data problem (Although Minor) but it an outstanding job by the lads

5th April 2006, 06:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
puddleduck Chairman of Selectors AKA: Jeremy Member Since: Aug 2005 Location: Uk National Team: England Domestic Team: Middlesex	I would definately suggest that the game could do with incorporating two different strike rates. Afterall Flintoff these days in test cricket takes time to build his innings, but still looks to score remarkably quickly in the Odi arena. This could well explain why the odi arena is currently producing scores and run rates that are far too low. As players who have a high SR in odi cricket are having it reduced to form an average with their first class SR.

5th April 2006, 06:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
sammy22 School Boy Cricketer Member Since: Mar 2006	Just put Flintoffs over 100 Timewell. A player Like Freddy deserves to be special Also increase all his other stats whilst your at it

5th April 2006, 07:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
chrishinton School Boy Cricketer Member Since: Feb 2004	how do you change data sammy?

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