help me out - please..

arrediff · 6th May 2002, 06:23 AM

hi,
i am ashish
have the following computer system specifications.
so i just wanna know will this following system of my computer will support => ati radeon 8500le or riva tnt2 (which will be the best for my system).
* Windows 98 se
* intel pentiumIII - 450 mhz
* CHIPSET - VIA
* CACHE MEMORY - 512kb
* SIS6326 AGP GRAPHIC CARD Accelerator
* 160 MB RAM
* EXPANSION SLOTS - 2 PCI
1 Shared PCI/ISA
1 AGP
* GRAPHIC VIDEO CARD - AGP WITH 4mb
* MOTHERBOARD - P6BAT-Me MODEL (i dont know the company brand name of motherboard).
* SOUND CARD - On Board
please every one in this form if u have any suggestion or any ideas please post ur answers. it will be highly appreciated.
and if in future i upgrade my sis graphic which new card do i purchase and what can be its price.

Saptarshi · 6th May 2002, 08:59 AM

Hey arediff,
I think If you want a long term prospective of playing 3D games (3Ds the future of gaming), then I think a GeForce 2 or an ATi Radeon is a must.
For the compatibility issue, I think there has been a lot of problems with 3D card. A Riva TNT2 card is the bestcompatible with most old motherboards with a 2x or 4x AGP slot. I have known problems with my friends who have had old 810 motherboards with slow AGP slots, thus making GeForce 2 incompatible. So If your Motherboard has a 4x AGP slot with a Intel or AMD760(761) chipset GeForce2 and Ati are compatible.
For the cost factors, I think Geforce2 (approx. Rs. 5500) is the costliest but an Ati Radeon is better (slightly.. due to its texture) and slightly cheaper. (difference of just Rs1000-1500).. But compatibility could be an issue. For low end try buying a Riva TNT2 card which could make you play for atleast 3 more years. (Cost Rs.1800-2000).....
For my view. I think an motherboard with ViaKT 266A (For Amd) is the best with an Ati Radeon Card. AMD AThlon XP runs textures and fluency better than P4. For Intel Systems I recommened Riva TNT2.

Saptarshi · 6th May 2002, 09:04 AM

For the specs.. you have given above, I think a Riva TNT2 is the best (Geforce compatibility is the issue). I recommended AMD becoz.. Ati Radeon's speed can bottleneck P4.

6th May 2002, 08:51 PM

Saptarshi
don't confuse peoples without knowing what is what. :P :P .what all u said is wrong.(first know what is what in computer hardwares,then com and advise.)

arrediff
i am there to help u .in EA c2k2 forums.

7th May 2002, 06:42 AM

Quote:

A Riva TNT2 card is the bestcompatible with most old motherboards with a 2x or 4x AGP slot. I have known problems with my friends who have had old 810 motherboards with slow AGP slots, thus making GeForce 2 incompatible.

Your info is not exactly correct. What is a slow AGP slot please? Agreed that nvidia cards have a tendency to be a bit 'choosy' about motherboards etc. but that doesn't mean that they become out and out incompatible. Like I said in another post I'm yet to come across an nvidia compatibility issue that wasn't solved with NVmax.
I've a Intel 440LX based motherboard.Surely you would rate it as an old motherboard and so my TNT2 should have been working properly? But it did not. The reason was not old or new motherboard. The reason was my mobo was as unknown brand one not exactly top of the line and couple it with a slooooow processor like Celeron 266 SL2QG (w/o the L2 cache) and the card just refused to run 3d apps. Atleast not till I forced it to run at 1x (eve though my AGP slot supports 2x and my Asus V3800 supoorts 4x).

Saptarshi · 7th May 2002, 07:20 AM

Thankx "its me user" for telling me that I know nothing about hardware..

Atul. What I meant by slow AGP slots (some taiwan company makes motherboard with slow bus speed for 810 chipset)... meaning that a motherboard which has slow FSB.. eg. like try to run a PC100 RAM on a 133 FSB motherboard. (You waste your clock cycle)

Otherthing is the aperture size (1x, 2x, 4x etc.) that causes the most problems. (Your problem is just that). (Tell me If I am wrong on this)

7th May 2002, 08:48 AM

how there could be a agp slot in intel 810 mobe?
first go and read the whitepapers at intel.com
hey mate
WATS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????

810 max fsb is 100.no mobe makers will reduce the fsb.(but we can increase it.

Atul. What I meant by slow AGP slots (some taiwan company makes motherboard with slow bus speed for 810 chipset)... meaning that a motherboard which has slow FSB.. eg. like try to run a PC100 RAM on a 133 FSB motherboard. (You waste your clock cycle)

1x 2x 4x is agp bus speed,its not aperture size.aperture size is a memory.(which will be obtained from system memory for agp cards)

Otherthing is the aperture size (1x, 2x, 4x etc.) that causes the most problems. (Your problem is just that). (Tell me If I am wrong on this)

ritwikgames · 9th May 2002, 05:27 PM

sorry if i am wrong but i believe that an 810e motherboard does carry a 2x agp slot.

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6th May 2002, 06:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
arrediff School Boy Cricketer Member Since: Dec 2001 Location: INDIA, MUMBAI , BORIVALI(E)-66.	hi, i am ashish have the following computer system specifications. so i just wanna know will this following system of my computer will support => ati radeon 8500le or riva tnt2 (which will be the best for my system). * Windows 98 se * intel pentiumIII - 450 mhz * CHIPSET - VIA * CACHE MEMORY - 512kb * SIS6326 AGP GRAPHIC CARD Accelerator * 160 MB RAM * EXPANSION SLOTS - 2 PCI 1 Shared PCI/ISA 1 AGP * GRAPHIC VIDEO CARD - AGP WITH 4mb * MOTHERBOARD - P6BAT-Me MODEL (i dont know the company brand name of motherboard). * SOUND CARD - On Board please every one in this form if u have any suggestion or any ideas please post ur answers. it will be highly appreciated. and if in future i upgrade my sis graphic which new card do i purchase and what can be its price. __________________ email me at : arrediff11@rediffmail.com

6th May 2002, 08:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Saptarshi County Captain Member Since: Oct 2001 Location: India	Hey arediff, I think If you want a long term prospective of playing 3D games (3Ds the future of gaming), then I think a GeForce 2 or an ATi Radeon is a must. For the compatibility issue, I think there has been a lot of problems with 3D card. A Riva TNT2 card is the bestcompatible with most old motherboards with a 2x or 4x AGP slot. I have known problems with my friends who have had old 810 motherboards with slow AGP slots, thus making GeForce 2 incompatible. So If your Motherboard has a 4x AGP slot with a Intel or AMD760(761) chipset GeForce2 and Ati are compatible. For the cost factors, I think Geforce2 (approx. Rs. 5500) is the costliest but an Ati Radeon is better (slightly.. due to its texture) and slightly cheaper. (difference of just Rs1000-1500).. But compatibility could be an issue. For low end try buying a Riva TNT2 card which could make you play for atleast 3 more years. (Cost Rs.1800-2000)..... For my view. I think an motherboard with ViaKT 266A (For Amd) is the best with an Ati Radeon Card. AMD AThlon XP runs textures and fluency better than P4. For Intel Systems I recommened Riva TNT2. __________________ You live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE. The last thing that we can ever say is "I".

6th May 2002, 09:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Saptarshi County Captain Member Since: Oct 2001 Location: India	For the specs.. you have given above, I think a Riva TNT2 is the best (Geforce compatibility is the issue). I recommended AMD becoz.. Ati Radeon's speed can bottleneck P4. __________________ You live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE. The last thing that we can ever say is "I".

7th May 2002, 07:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Saptarshi County Captain Member Since: Oct 2001 Location: India	Thankx "its me user" for telling me that I know nothing about hardware.. Atul. What I meant by slow AGP slots (some taiwan company makes motherboard with slow bus speed for 810 chipset)... meaning that a motherboard which has slow FSB.. eg. like try to run a PC100 RAM on a 133 FSB motherboard. (You waste your clock cycle) Otherthing is the aperture size (1x, 2x, 4x etc.) that causes the most problems. (Your problem is just that). (Tell me If I am wrong on this) __________________ You live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE. The last thing that we can ever say is "I".

6th May 2002, 08:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anonymous Guest	Saptarshi don't confuse peoples without knowing what is what. :P :P .what all u said is wrong.(first know what is what in computer hardwares,then com and advise.) arrediff i am there to help u .in EA c2k2 forums.

7th May 2002, 08:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
Anonymous Guest	how there could be a agp slot in intel 810 mobe? first go and read the whitepapers at intel.com hey mate WATS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? 810 max fsb is 100.no mobe makers will reduce the fsb.(but we can increase it. Atul. What I meant by slow AGP slots (some taiwan company makes motherboard with slow bus speed for 810 chipset)... meaning that a motherboard which has slow FSB.. eg. like try to run a PC100 RAM on a 133 FSB motherboard. (You waste your clock cycle) 1x 2x 4x is agp bus speed,its not aperture size.aperture size is a memory.(which will be obtained from system memory for agp cards) Otherthing is the aperture size (1x, 2x, 4x etc.) that causes the most problems. (Your problem is just that). (Tell me If I am wrong on this)

9th May 2002, 05:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
ritwikgames School Boy Cricketer Member Since: Dec 2001 Location: New Delhi	sorry if i am wrong but i believe that an 810e motherboard does carry a 2x agp slot. __________________ Ritwik Agrawal Administrator PlanetCricket.Net -------------- PlanetCricket.Net Cricket 2002 Online Think About It "It is better to keep your mouth shut, and look like a fool, than to open your mouth, and remove all doubt."

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