England A in the caribbean...

rocklara · 12th March 2006, 02:30 AM

Witnessed the second odi day/night at the beausejour cricket ground. England A managed to square the series 1-1 with an emphatic 46 run victory. Congrats to all my english mates on this forum, your team did fight back well here. Star of the moment Ed Joyce with 85.

skater · 12th March 2006, 09:53 AM

Now in my opinion Ed Joyce needs to be added into the squad to play against Sri Lanka and Pakistan in the summer. I can't see Michael Vaughan doing much more before he retires- it's hard to come back from a knee injury like that.

James_W · 12th March 2006, 12:03 PM

Ed Joyce, the Irishman is going to be England's best players.

ZoraxDoom · 12th March 2006, 06:53 PM

Add to that a certain South African batsman, and that your leading keeper is born in Papua New Guinea, and that your new opener is an Aussie...
Oh, and your leading spinner is born in India, and 3 out of 4 call-ups for the Ind-Eng ODI series are Asian...

andrew_nixon · 12th March 2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

Oh, and your leading spinner is born in India, and 3 out of 4 call-ups for the Ind-Eng ODI series are Asian...

Our leading spinner, by which I assume you mean Panesar, was born in Luton.

In the squad for the ODI series, two players are born in Asia (Shah and Solanki).

Get your facts straight.

I still haven't had an answer to why people criticise England for picking players born outside the country, but NEVER have a go at Australia for picking Andy Symonds.

barmyarmy · 12th March 2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew_nixon

I still haven't had an answer to why people criticise England for picking players born outside the country, but NEVER have a go at Australia for picking Andy Symonds.

I'll have a go at England for not picking him if you want.

andrew_nixon · 12th March 2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by barmyarmy

I'll have a go at England for not picking him if you want.

I think we once picked him for an England A tour, but for some reason he decided that a valuble contract with an Australian State Team was worth more than an expenses only tour with England A.

ZoraxDoom · 12th March 2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew_nixon

Our leading spinner, by which I assume you mean Panesar, was born in Luton.

In the squad for the ODI series, two players are born in Asia (Shah and Solanki).

Get your facts straight.

I still haven't had an answer to why people criticise England for picking players born outside the country, but NEVER have a go at Australia for picking Andy Symonds.

My bad, I meant from India for Panesar. Atleast his parents were.
And Sajid Mahmood is also Asian. May not be born there, but it doesn't cahnge what he is.

andrew_nixon · 12th March 2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

My bad, I meant from India for Panesar. Atleast his parents were.
And Sajid Mahmood is also Asian. May not be born there, but it doesn't cahnge what he is.

So someone born in Luton, Bedfordshire, England is from India? Makes sense.

And Sajid Mahmood is English. Born in Bolton, Lancashire, England. I suppose that makes him from Pakistan.

ZoraxDoom · 13th March 2006, 03:44 PM

Well, and English man is not normally named Sajid Mahmood or Mudhasan Singh...
They are Asians, they can be born on the moon but they are still of Asian blood. And 2 out of the 4 are also born in Aisa. Not to forget the South African and the guy from Paupa New Guniea (spelling mistake there somewhere...)

MUFC1987 · 13th March 2006, 04:01 PM

Try to stop the bickering lads, it's got very old, very fast.

The impressive thing about Joyce doing well is that he's playing as an opener, which is not his normal role. But credit to him, he's doing it and well. I think he could bat at three in Tests, but with Two left handers as openers and the form of Ian Bell & Paul Collingwood, that is unlikely.

Needless to say I'd much rather see him at 3 in the ODI team.

Mahmood and Batty also took four wickets each if I'm not mistaken, Batty in particular has taken wickets at ease, why Udal made it to India ahead of him I will never know. Interesting to note Solanki at 4 and not opening in the One Day games as well.

andrew_nixon · 13th March 2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

Well, and English man is not normally named Sajid Mahmood or Mudhasan Singh...

100% wrong there.

But like I've said before, your main hobby on this site is disagreeing with me, trying to prove me wrong, and trying to get me removed from the staff team, so you probably don't even care what I say.

ZoraxDoom · 13th March 2006, 04:22 PM

Why Giles made it ahead of Batty is also a mystery. Batty and Panesar are two of your best spinners...
Oh, and BTW, Joyce is from Ireland

Ok, enough of that

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Originally Posted by andrew_nixon

100% wrong there.

How? Mahmood and Panesar are of Asian descent. Clearly. I've seen them, and heck their names even suggest it.

andrew_nixon · 13th March 2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

Oh, and BTW, Joyce is from Ireland

Agreed, but Sajid Mahmood and Monty Panesar are both from England. By saying that they're not English, you sound like a racist far-right politician. (Not saying you are BTW)

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Originally Posted by ZoraxDoom

How? Mahmood and Panesar are of Asian descent. Clearly. I've seen them, and heck their names even suggest it.

I agree that they're of Asian descent. Doesn't change the FACT that they're English, and from England.

ZoraxDoom · 13th March 2006, 04:38 PM

I agree, but my point was that 3/4 of your recalled squad is of Asian descent...maybe I phrased it wrong...

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12th March 2006, 02:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
rocklara International Captain Member Since: May 2003 Location: St.Lucia National Team: Trinidad & Tobago Domestic Team: Trinidad & Tobago	England A in the caribbean... Witnessed the second odi day/night at the beausejour cricket ground. England A managed to square the series 1-1 with an emphatic 46 run victory. Congrats to all my english mates on this forum, your team did fight back well here. Star of the moment Ed Joyce with 85. __________________ The Mrf Wizard

12th March 2006, 06:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
ZoraxDoom ICC President AKA: Zorax Member Since: Nov 2004 Location: Dubai, U.A.E National Team: India, Zimbabwe, Bangla Domestic Team: Rajasthan Royals/Everton/Kolkata Tigers	Add to that a certain South African batsman, and that your leading keeper is born in Papua New Guinea, and that your new opener is an Aussie... Oh, and your leading spinner is born in India, and 3 out of 4 call-ups for the Ind-Eng ODI series are Asian... __________________ Cricket Champion is an awesome game in the making. Check it out. The Downright Donkeys. Don't click here. The PCPL Comedy Naming Group - sign up to give PC's most popular tournament a most embarrassing name.

13th March 2006, 03:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
ZoraxDoom ICC President AKA: Zorax Member Since: Nov 2004 Location: Dubai, U.A.E National Team: India, Zimbabwe, Bangla Domestic Team: Rajasthan Royals/Everton/Kolkata Tigers	Well, and English man is not normally named Sajid Mahmood or Mudhasan Singh... They are Asians, they can be born on the moon but they are still of Asian blood. And 2 out of the 4 are also born in Aisa. Not to forget the South African and the guy from Paupa New Guniea (spelling mistake there somewhere...) __________________ Cricket Champion is an awesome game in the making. Check it out. The Downright Donkeys. Don't click here. The PCPL Comedy Naming Group - sign up to give PC's most popular tournament a most embarrassing name.

13th March 2006, 04:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
ZoraxDoom ICC President AKA: Zorax Member Since: Nov 2004 Location: Dubai, U.A.E National Team: India, Zimbabwe, Bangla Domestic Team: Rajasthan Royals/Everton/Kolkata Tigers	I agree, but my point was that 3/4 of your recalled squad is of Asian descent...maybe I phrased it wrong... __________________ Cricket Champion is an awesome game in the making. Check it out. The Downright Donkeys. Don't click here. The PCPL Comedy Naming Group - sign up to give PC's most popular tournament a most embarrassing name.

12th March 2006, 09:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
skater ICC Chairman AKA: Lee Member Since: Jan 2004 Location: Norwich, England National Team: England	Now in my opinion Ed Joyce needs to be added into the squad to play against Sri Lanka and Pakistan in the summer. I can't see Michael Vaughan doing much more before he retires- it's hard to come back from a knee injury like that.

12th March 2006, 12:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
James_W 1st XI Cricketer Member Since: Oct 2005	Ed Joyce, the Irishman is going to be England's best players.

13th March 2006, 04:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
MUFC1987 International Coach Member Since: Sep 2005 National Team: England Domestic Team: Somerset	Try to stop the bickering lads, it's got very old, very fast. The impressive thing about Joyce doing well is that he's playing as an opener, which is not his normal role. But credit to him, he's doing it and well. I think he could bat at three in Tests, but with Two left handers as openers and the form of Ian Bell & Paul Collingwood, that is unlikely. Needless to say I'd much rather see him at 3 in the ODI team. Mahmood and Batty also took four wickets each if I'm not mistaken, Batty in particular has taken wickets at ease, why Udal made it to India ahead of him I will never know. Interesting to note Solanki at 4 and not opening in the One Day games as well.

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